Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani (#720)


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Soman Chainani (@somanc) is the bestselling author of The School for Good & Evil book series, which has sold more than 4 million copies, been translated into 35 languages across six continents, and been adapted into a major motion picture from Netflix that debuted at #1 in more than 80 countries.

Soman’s book of retold fairy tales, Beasts and Beauty, debuted on The New York Times Best Sellers List—his seventh book in a row to do so—and is slated to be a limited television series from Sony’s 3000 Pictures, with Soman writing and executive producing. Together, his books have been on the New York Times Best Sellers List for more than 50 weeks.

Soman has an A.B. in English and American Literature from Harvard University and an MFA in Film from Columbia University. He is a recipient of the Sun Valley Writers Fellowship, and he has been nominated for the Waterstone Prize for Children’s Literature and been named to the Out100.

Soman has visited more than 800 schools around the world, sharing his message that reading is the path to a better life.

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#720: Life Lessons from Taylor Swift, Conquering Anxiety, Coaching Teens, Career Reinvention, Supposedly Gay Bulls, Your Shadow Side, and More — Soman Chainani

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What was your favorite quote or lesson from this episode? Please let me know in the comments.

Hear my first conversation with Soman Chainani:

#220: Soman Chainani — The School for Good and Evil


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00:00 Start

04:54 Intro

07:31 Follow the flow

24:02 “Your bull might be gay”

36:37 The work of visual artist Christopher Marley

40:36 Coaching Generation Alpha

59:31 Experience with ketamine

01:08:13 “Shadow Self” vs “The Double”

01:13:53 “Quarterback”

01:17:35 Career lessons from Taylor Swift

01:29:55 Cross-collar dating

01:35:15 Language of couples

01:36:59 Hookups

01:41:37 St. Louis

01:43:00 Allergies

01:48:41 Parting thoughts

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